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360 BC

CRITIAS

by Plato

translated by Benjamin Jowett

CRITIAS



PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: CRITIAS; HERMOCRATES; TIMAEUS; SOCRATES



Timaeus. How thankful I am, Socrates, that I have arrived at last,

and, like a weary traveller after a long journey, may be at rest!

And I pray the being who always was of old, and has now been by me

revealed, to grant that my words may endure in so far as they have

been spoken truly and acceptably to him; but if unintentionally I have

said anything wrong, I pray that he will impose upon me a just

retribution, and the just retribution of him who errs is that he

should be set right. Wishing, then, to speak truly in future

concerning the generation of the gods, I pray him to give me

knowledge, which of all medicines is the most perfect and best. And

now having offered my prayer I deliver up the argument to Critias, who

is to speak next according to our agreement.

Critias. And I, Timaeus, accept the trust, and as you at first

said that you were going to speak of high matters, and begged that

some forbearance might be shown to you, I too ask the same or

greater forbearance for what I am about to say. And although I very

well know that my request may appear to be somewhat and

discourteous, I must make it nevertheless. For will any man of sense

deny that you have spoken well? I can only attempt to show that I

ought to have more indulgence than you, because my theme is more

difficult; and I shall argue that to seem to speak well of the gods to

men is far easier than to speak well of men to men: for the

inexperience and utter ignorance of his hearers about any subject is a

great assistance to him who has to speak of it, and we know how

ignorant we are concerning the gods. But I should like to make my

meaning clearer, if Timaeus, you will follow me. All that is said by

any of us can only be imitation and representation. For if we consider

the likenesses which painters make of bodies divine and heavenly,

and the different degrees of gratification with which the eye of the

spectator receives them, we shall see that we are satisfied with the

artist who is able in any degree to imitate the earth and its

mountains, and the rivers, and the woods, and the universe, and the

things that are and move therein, and further, that knowing nothing

precise about such matters, we do not examine or analyze the painting;

all that is required is a sort of indistinct and deceptive mode of

shadowing them forth. But when a person endeavours to paint the

human form we are quick at finding out defects, and our familiar

knowledge makes us severe judges of any one who does not render

every point of similarity. And we may observe the same thing to happen

in discourse; we are satisfied with a picture of divine and heavenly

things which has very little likeness to them; but we are more precise

in our criticism of mortal and human things. Wherefore if at the

moment of speaking I cannot suitably express my meaning, you must

excuse me, considering that to form approved likenesses of human

things is the reverse of easy. This is what I want to suggest to

you, and at the same time to beg, Socrates, that I may have not

less, but more indulgence conceded to me in what I am about to say.

Which favour, if I am right in asking, I hope that you will be ready

to grant.

Socrates. Certainly, Critias, we will grant your request, and we

will grant the same by anticipation to Hermocrates, as well as to

you and Timaeus; for I have no doubt that when his turn comes a little

while hence, he will make the same request which you have made. In

order, then, that he may provide himself with a fresh beginning, and

not be compelled to say the same things over again, let him understand

that the indulgence is already extended by anticipation to him. And

now, friend Critias, I will announce to you the judgment of the

theatre. They are of opinion that the last performer was wonderfully

successful, and that you will need a great deal of indulgence before

you will be able to take his place.

Hermocrates. The warning, Socrates, which you have addressed to him,

I must also take to myself. But remember, Critias, that faint heart

never yet raised a trophy; and therefore you must go and attack the

argument like a man. First invoke Apollo and the Muses, and then let

us hear you sound the praises and show forth the virtues of your

ancient citizens.

Crit. Friend Hermocrates, you, who are stationed last and have

another in front of you, have not lost heart as yet; the gravity of

the situation will soon be revealed to you; meanwhile I accept your

exhortations and encouragements. But besides the gods and goddesses

whom you have mentioned, I would specially invoke Mnemosyne; for all

the important part of my discourse is dependent on her favour, and

if I can recollect and recite enough of what was said by the priests

and brought hither by Solon, I doubt not that I shall satisfy the

requirements of this theatre. And now, making no more excuses, I

will proceed.

Let me begin by observing first of all, that nine thousand was the

sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have

taken place between those who dwelt outside the Pillars of Heracles

and all who dwelt within them; this war I am going to describe. Of the

combatants on the one side, the city of Athens was reported to have

been the leader and to have fought out the war; the combatants on

the other side were commanded by the kings of Atlantis, which, as

was saying, was an island greater in extent than Libya and Asia, and

when afterwards sunk by an earthquake, became an impassable barrier of

mud to voyagers sailing from hence to any part of the ocean. The

progress of the history will unfold the various nations of

barbarians and families of Hellenes which then existed, as they

successively appear on the scene; but I must describe first of all

Athenians of that day, and their enemies who fought with them, and

then the respective powers and governments of the two kingdoms. Let us

give the precedence to Athens.

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