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him. Now the man who is dead was a poor dependent of mine who worked

for us as a field labourer on our farm in Naxos, and one day in a

fit of drunken passion he got into a quarrel with one of our

domestic servants and slew him. My father bound him hand and foot

and threw him into a ditch, and then sent to Athens to ask of a

diviner what he should do with him. Meanwhile he never attended to him

and took no care about him, for he regarded him as a murderer; and

thought that no great harm would be done even if he did die. Now

this was just what happened. For such was the effect of cold and

hunger and chains upon him, that before the messenger returned from

the diviner, he was dead. And my father and family are angry with me

for taking the part of the murderer and prosecuting my father. They

say that he did not kill him, and that if he did, dead man was but a

murderer, and I ought not to take any notice, for that a son is

impious who prosecutes a father. Which shows, Socrates, how little

they know what the gods think about piety and impiety.

Soc. Good heavens, Euthyphro! and is your knowledge of religion

and of things pious and impious so very exact, that, supposing the

circumstances to be as you state them, you are not afraid lest you too

may be doing an impious thing in bringing an action against your

father?

Euth. The best of Euthyphro, and that which distinguishes him,

Socrates, from other men, is his exact knowledge of all such

matters. What should I be good for without it?

Soc. Rare friend! I think that I cannot do better than be your

disciple. Then before the trial with Meletus comes on I shall

challenge him, and say that I have always had a great interest in

religious questions, and now, as he charges me with rash

imaginations and innovations in religion, I have become your disciple.

You, Meletus, as I shall say to him, acknowledge Euthyphro to be a

great theologian, and sound in his opinions; and if you approve of him

you ought to approve of me, and not have me into court; but if you

disapprove, you should begin by indicting him who is my teacher, and

who will be the ruin, not of the young, but of the old; that is to

say, of myself whom he instructs, and of his old father whom he

admonishes and chastises. And if Meletus refuses to listen to me,

but will go on, and will not shift the indictment from me to you, I

cannot do better than repeat this challenge in the court.

Euth. Yes, indeed, Socrates; and if he attempts to indict me I am

mistaken if I do not find a flaw in him; the court shall have a

great deal more to say to him than to me.

Soc. And I, my dear friend, knowing this, am desirous of becoming

your disciple. For I observe that no one appears to notice you- not

even this Meletus; but his sharp eyes have found me out at once, and

he has indicted me for impiety. And therefore, I adjure you to tell me

the nature of piety and impiety, which you said that you knew so well,

and of murder, and of other offences against the gods. What are

they? Is not piety in every action always the same? and impiety,

again- is it not always the opposite of piety, and also the same with

itself, having, as impiety, one notion which includes whatever is

impious?

Euth. To be sure, Socrates.

Soc. And what is piety, and what is impiety?

Euth. Piety is doing as I am doing; that is to say, prosecuting

any one who is guilty of murder, sacrilege, or of any similar

crime-whether he be your father or mother, or whoever he may be-that

makes no difference; and not to prosecute them is impiety. And

please to consider, Socrates, what a notable proof I will give you

of the truth of my words, a proof which I have already given to

others:-of the principle, I mean, that the impious, whoever he may be,

ought not to go unpunished. For do not men regard Zeus as the best and

most righteous of the gods?-and yet they admit that he bound his

father (Cronos) because he wickedly devoured his sons, and that he too

had punished his own father (Uranus) for a similar reason, in a

nameless manner. And yet when I proceed against my father, they are

angry with me. So inconsistent are they in their way of talking when

the gods are concerned, and when I am concerned.

Soc. May not this be the reason, Euthyphro, why I am charged with

impiety-that I cannot away with these stories about the gods? and

therefore I suppose that people think me wrong. But, as you who are

well informed about them approve of them, I cannot do better than

assent to your superior wisdom. What else can I say, confessing as I

do, that I know nothing about them? Tell me, for the love of Zeus,

whether you really believe that they are true.

Euth. Yes, Socrates; and things more wonderful still, of which the

world is in ignorance.

Soc. And do you really believe that the gods, fought with one

another, and had dire quarrels, battles, and the like, as the poets

say, and as you may see represented in the works of great artists? The

temples are full of them; and notably the robe of Athene, which is

carried up to the Acropolis at the great Panathenaea, is embroidered

with them. Are all these tales of the gods true, Euthyphro?

Euth. Yes, Socrates; and, as I was saying, I can tell you, if you

would like to hear them, many other things about the gods which

would quite amaze you.

Soc. I dare say; and you shall tell me them at some other time

when I have leisure. But just at present I would rather hear from

you a more precise answer, which you have not as yet given, my friend,

to the question, What is "piety"? When asked, you only replied,

Doing as you do, charging your father with murder.

Euth. And what I said was true, Socrates.

Soc. No doubt, Euthyphro; but you would admit that there are many

other pious acts?

Euth. There are.

Soc. Remember that I did not ask you to give me two or three

examples of piety, but to explain the general idea which makes all

pious things to be pious. Do you not recollect that there was one idea

which made the impious impious, and the pious pious?

Euth. I remember.

Soc. Tell me what is the nature of this idea, and then I shall

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