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while the process of becoming is going on?

True.

Then the one is of the same age with all the others, so that if

the one itself does not contradict its own nature, it will be

neither prior nor posterior to the others, but simultaneous; and

according to this argument the one will be neither older nor younger

than the others, nor the others than the one, but according to the

previous argument the one will be older and younger than the others

and the others than the one.

Certainly.

After this manner then the one is and has become. But as to its

becoming older and younger than the others, and the others than the

one, and neither older. nor younger, what shall we say? Shall we say

as of being so also of becoming, or otherwise?

I cannot answer.

But I can venture to say, that even if one thing were older or

younger than another, it could not become older or younger in a

greater degree than it was at first; for equals added to unequals,

whether to periods of time or to anything else, leave the difference

between them the same as at first.

Of course. Then that which is, cannot become older or younger than

that which is, since the difference of age is always the same; the one

is and has become older and the other younger; but they are no

longer becoming so.

True.

And the one which is does not therefore become either older or

younger than the others which are

No.

But consider whether they may not become older and younger in

another way.

In what way?

Just as the one was proven to be older than the others and the

others than the one.

And what of that?

If the one is older than the others, has come into being a longer

time than the others.

Yes.

But consider again; if we add equal time to a greater and a less

time, will the greater differ from the less time by an equal or by a

smaller portion than before?

By a smaller portion.

Then the difference between the age of the one and the age of the

others will not be afterwards so great as at first, but if an equal

time be added to both of them they will differ less and less in age?

Yes.

And that which differs in age from some other less than formerly,

from being older will become younger in relation to that other than

which it was older?

Yes, younger.

And if the one becomes younger the others aforesaid will become

older than they were before, in relation to the one.

Certainly.

Then that which had become younger becomes older relatively to

that which previously had become and was older; it never really is

older, but is always becoming, for the one is always growing on the

side of youth and the other on the side of age. And in like manner the

older is always in process of becoming younger than the younger; for

as they are always going in opposite directions they become in ways

the opposite to one another, the younger older than the older and

the older younger than the younger. They cannot, however have

become; for if they had already become they would be and not merely

become. But that is impossible; for they are always becoming both

older and younger than one another: the one becomes younger than the

others because it was seen to be older and prior, and the others

become older than the one because they came into being later; and in

the same way the others are in the same relation to the one, because

they were seen to be older, and prior to the one.

That is clear.

Inasmuch then, one thing does not become older or younger than

another, in that they always differ from each other by an equal

number, the one cannot become older or younger than the others, nor

the other than the one; but inasmuch as that which came into being

earlier and that which came into being later must continually differ

from each other by a different portion-in this point of view the

others must become older and younger than the one, and the one than

the others.

Certainly.

For all these reasons, then, the one is and becomes older and

younger than itself and the others, and neither is nor becomes older

or younger than itself or the others.

Certainly.

But since the one partakes of time, and partakes of becoming older

and younger, must it not also partake of the past, the present, and

the future?

Of course it must.

Then the one was and is and will be, and was becoming and is

becoming and will become?

Certainly.

And there is and was and will be something which is in relation to

it and belongs to it?

True.

And since we have at this moment opinion and knowledge and

perception of the one, there is opinion and knowledge and perception

of it?

Quite right.

Then there is name and expression for it, and it is named and

expressed, and everything of this kind which appertains to other:

things appertains to the one.

Certainly, that is true.



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