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body which brings destruction to the soul may be unknown to any of us,

for no one of us can have had any experience of it: and if this be

true, then I say that he who is confident in death has but a foolish

confidence, unless he is able to prove that the soul is altogether

immortal and imperishable. But if he is not able to prove this, he who

is about to die will always have reason to fear that when the body

is disunited, the soul also may utterly perish.

All of us, as we afterwards remarked to one another, had an

unpleasant feeling at hearing them say this. When we had been so

firmly convinced before, now to have our faith shaken seemed to

introduce a confusion and uncertainty, not only into the previous

argument, but into any future one; either we were not good judges,

or there were no real grounds of belief.

Ech. There I feel with you-indeed I do, Phaedo, and when you were

speaking, I was beginning to ask myself the same question: What

argument can I ever trust again? For what could be more convincing

than the argument of Socrates, which has now fallen into discredit?

That the soul is a harmony is a doctrine which has always had a

wonderful attraction for me, and, when mentioned, came back to me at

once, as my own original conviction. And now I must begin again and

find another argument which will assure me that when the man is dead

the soul dies not with him. Tell me, I beg, how did Socrates

proceed? Did he appear to share the unpleasant feeling which you

mention? or did he receive the interruption calmly and give a

sufficient answer? Tell us, as exactly as you can, what passed.

Phaed. Often, Echecrates, as I have admired Socrates, I never

admired him more than at that moment. That he should be able to answer

was nothing, but what astonished me was, first, the gentle and

pleasant and approving manner in which he regarded the words of the

young men, and then his quick sense of the wound which had been

inflicted by the argument, and his ready application of the healing

art. He might be compared to a general rallying his defeated and

broken army, urging them to follow him and return to the field of

argument.

Ech. How was that?

Phaed. You shall hear, for I was close to him on his right hand,

seated on a sort of stool, and he on a couch which was a good deal

higher. Now he had a way of playing with my hair, and then he smoothed

my head, and pressed the hair upon my neck, and said: To-morrow,

Phaedo, I suppose that these fair locks of yours will be severed.

Yes, Socrates, I suppose that they will, I replied.

Not so if you will take my advice.

What shall I do with them? I said.

To-day, he replied, and not to-morrow, if this argument dies and

cannot be brought to life again by us, you and I will both shave our

locks; and if I were you, and could not maintain my ground against

Simmias and Cebes, I would myself take an oath, like the Argives,

not to wear hair any more until I had renewed the conflict and

defeated them.

Yes, I said, but Heracles himself is said not to be a match for two.

Summon me then, he said, and I will be your Iolaus until the sun

goes down.

I summon you rather, I said, not as Heracles summoning Iolaus, but

as Iolaus might summon Heracles.

That will be all the same, he said. But first let us take care

that we avoid a danger.

And what is that? I said.

The danger of becoming misologists, he replied, which is one of

the very worst things that can happen to us. For as there are

misanthropists or haters of men, there are also misologists or

haters of ideas, and both spring from the same cause, which is

ignorance of the world. Misanthropy arises from the too great

confidence of inexperience; you trust a man and think him altogether

true and good and faithful, and then in a little while he turns out to

be false and knavish; and then another and another, and when this

has happened several times to a man, especially within the circle of

his most trusted friends, as he deems them, and he has often quarreled

with them, he at last hates all men, and believes that no one has

any good in him at all. I dare say that you must have observed this.

Yes, I said.

And is not this discreditable? The reason is that a man, having to

deal with other men, has no knowledge of them; for if he had knowledge

he would have known the true state of the case, that few are the

good and few the evil, and that the great majority are in the interval

between them.

How do you mean? I said.

I mean, he replied, as you might say of the very large and very

small, that nothing is more uncommon than a very large or a very small

man; and this applies generally to all extremes, whether of great

and small, or swift and slow, or fair and foul, or black and white:

and whether the instances you select be men or dogs or anything

else, few are the extremes, but many are in the mean between them. Did

you never observe this?

Yes, I said, I have.

And do you not imagine, he said, that if there were a competition of

evil, the first in evil would be found to be very few?

Yes, that is very likely, I said.

Yes, that is very likely, he replied; not that in this respect

arguments are like men-there I was led on by you to say more than I

had intended; but the point of comparison was that when a simple man

who has no skill in dialectics believes an argument to be true which

he afterwards imagines to be false, whether really false or not, and

then another and another, he has no longer any faith left, and great

disputers, as you know, come to think, at last that they have grown to

be the wisest of mankind; for they alone perceive the utter

unsoundness and instability of all arguments, or, indeed, of all

things, which, like the currents in the Euripus, are going up and down

in never-ceasing ebb and flow.

That is quite true, I said.

Yes, Phaedo, he replied, and very melancholy too, if there be such a

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